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Wednesday, 11 October 2006

Hidden Art Going Global?

 

I was first introduced to Hidden Art four years ago at the Milan Salone del Mobile.  Shortly after that, I scheduled a meeting in London with Dieneke Ferguson to ask about the possibility of starting a Hidden Ahiddenartlogo_jpeg_300rt franchise in Italy.  The meeting never took place, something came up.  When I finally introduced myself to her at Milan’s Salone Satellite this year (2006), she immediately said, “You’ve been trying to talk with me for a long time.  You’re persistent.”  True, but only with the good ones, I told her…
I was shocked that Dieneke remembered missing the appointment four years earlier (and apologized again for it).  I was surprised that she remembered our infrequent contact over time.  But I shouldn’t have expected less from the founder of Mazorca Projects, the non-profit organization whose trading name is Hidden Art, one of the world’s best known organizations dedicated to the development of designer-makers and designers.
 

logomazorcaprojectsDutch-born Dieneke Ferguson founded Mazorca in 1989 with a desire to uncover untapped creative resources in her local environment, East London.  Within that context, Hidden Art, what Dieneke refers to as Mazorca’s “brand”, was created.  From its inception Dieneke has had the goal of taking Hidden Art global.  She confesses that her goal is clear and unwavering but how to get there isn’t.  Hidden Art’s slow expansion from an East London membership to wider geographic representation is a promising move in the right direction.  Today, a quick glance at any interiors magazine is evidence of the strength of designers and designer-makers who share the Hidden Art bond.  Somebody is doing something right…  Hidden Art also launched its first social franchise in Cornwall in 2005.  “That’s why I couldn’t talk to you about doing a franchise in Italy four years ago.  We were working on Cornwall then.  It took that long to develop the right model,” she explained.  Drawing the blueprints for Hidden Art’s global expansion takes time, Dieneke says, but she and her eight-person team are patiently putting the structures in place.
 

When I met Dieneke at the Hidden Art stand at 100% Design, like at their stand in Milan, she was there like a mother watching out for her progeny, satisfaction shining through a genuine smile.  When she speaks of the work of her members, it’s not brand promotion, she passionately believes in the work of Hidden Art members (her home is furnished with a lot of it!).  Hidden Art is her lifestyle, and she’s as loyal to it as she is to her own ideas and goals for where she’d like the organization to go.  If you see Dieneke glowing when she talks about Hidden Art, just try asking her about food…  With a world which is growing smaller and more interconnected by the day, my money says Dieneke succeeds at taking Hidden Art global.

 

officeviewWhich parts of the growth of Hidden Art did you anticipate and which have been beyond your wildest dreams?  My aims have always been the same.  My vision is to be global.  When I started Mazorca I knew that I wanted to work locally and build on that.  Mazorca means corn in Latin America, where I’ve spent a lot of time working.  Corn is used in everything and for everything, it’s central to the culture.  At first, people didn’t get what I meant, but slowly they started to catch on:  if you want to use local resources sustainably, they have to be used creatively, and there has to be a synergy between the local and the global.  So what we’ve done is to create a brand, and we’re developing it.  (photo:  Inside Hidden Art offices at Shoreditch Stables in East London)

I think you always have a vision but you don’t envision the route.  I knew that I wanted to support small businesses, help them to access markets.  I knew that this work should be global.  My ideal is to create such a network of designers that someone, anywhere says “I’ve got a product in mind, I’m interested in a certain technique to make it…” and they go to the computer, check into Hidden Art, and can find the maker who can help them.  Visions shouldn’t be too easy, I think, and we’re not there yet.  We’ve started in London, and benefits are growing, demands outside of London have showed us that.  Last year we started out first social franchise in Cornwall, we launched the e-shop.  But we’re still struggling with getting the right expertise that will enable us to link the local with the global to create a win-win situation.  My goal is to have Hidden Arts in St. Petersburg, Bucharest, Hanoi...  It may seem easy, but we have to find the right model to get us there. (Ella Doran Table Mats, Vintage Plates)
 

When people think of “designer-makers” in London, they think of East London.  Could Hidden Art have flourished in another neighborhood, say Notting Hill?  How has your borough contributed to the strength of the development of Hidden Art and in what ways?  When I first moved to London in the mid 80s, I lived on Harrow Road in Notting Hill.  It’s less multicultural than East London which is industry based with a lot of warehouses, production, and a supply network.  The simple answer is no.  It could have probably only flourished in East London.  There is so much to discover there.  Really though, I think it’s fate.  I ended up there and I loved it, like the other designer-makers do.  You have the history of Brick Lane and its textiles, Clerkenwell road’s jewelry making…  Making is so important to East London.  If you look around and see the statues in East London they are all of people who made things.

 
56jamesthedoormanThe e-shop has been a successful endeavour for Hidden Art and something one of your members referred to as “closing the circle”—where Hidden Art now helps artists develop and helps them sell products.  What other elements do you feel are still needed in order to render Hidden Art an even more powerful affiliation for both designers and sponsors?  What are you working toward?
I think that’s right.  We are closing the supply chain. 

We need to do more work on professional development and acquiring skills.  The plan for the Olympics is to capacity build.  Some people involved in that may not make it but we have to try.  We also need to help our designer-makers get more business skills, for example follow-up on contacts.  They need to know that it’s not enough just to set up a stand, have your product there and just sit.  There’s more to it.  There’s interaction with the visitors, there’s promoting the product.  We need to work at making the sector more professional, and we need to get more serious sponsorship, find more money.  (Photo:  James the Doorman by Black+Blum, a top seller in the Hidden Art e-Shop).

 
What is the most difficult challenge you face daily in your work?
Finding the time to address challenges and take advantage of opportunities.  One of my jobs is line managing three teams.  The other is developing ideas.  Then there are interviews like this one or with the Evening Standard where they came to my apartment.  It took two days to do, and I have to fit all of that in as well.  It’s a challenge to find the balance between everything, although it is definitely easier for me to prioritize now than it has been in the past.

 
Which aspects of Hidden Arts will you never tire of?
The surprise!  You never know what’s going to happen next.  So many lovely things happen, it’s really wonderful.

 
elladoranplacematsWhat changes have you noticed in your membership over the years?  To what do you think these changes can be attributed?  What about the design field in general—how has it changed?
Younger people coming from college are much more multifaceted.  Their design capabilities can be graphic or computer-based, or from any number of disciplines.  This is probably due to accessibility of new technologies.  Our membership is changing among the three categories we support—designer-makers who produce hand-made items (not mass production), those who design and sub-contract out the making of the design into a product for small production not mass market, and those who develop and make a new design and then find a producer.  When we started there were more members in the first category and now we are seeing a move from that category to the second, sub-contractors.   (Right:  Large Table Mats, Vintage Plates decor, by Ella Doran)

Our network is growing.  The Hidden Art Membership scheme was launched in 2000 to go beyond east London, but due to funding restrictions benefits could only cover members from East London.  Last year (2005) we were able to offer benefits to all of London, and we’ve piloted a UK and International membership category, as well as developing a ‘Manufacturer’ category which includes retailers and suppliers.

In the design field in general, trends come and go.  Right now you see this baroque and modern combination which has created a really eclectic market.  When we started out though, English tastes weren’t in contemporary design.  Now this is more accepted.  These trends and items are selected.  Sometimes Hidden Art members are trendsetters, sometimes not.  You just kind of fall into it.

 
What impact do you think Hidden Art has had on
London as one of the leading design capitals of the world?  We were the first in 1992 talking about East London having the highest number of designer-makers in Europe.  And we were certainly trendsetters in this regard, and after a while people started to talk about those numbers and that statistic.  We’ve contributed to making design visible.
 

kb01Time Capsule:  Which three objects would you put in a time capsule today (spanning the life of Hidden Art) which say the most about Hidden Art and the times we live in? 

A vase by Karen Bunting .  She was the person who suggested the idea of Hidden Art Open Studios. (Right)
Place mats by Ella Doran .  She makes them herself and then subcontracts the production.
James the Door Man by Black + Blum.  They design their products and have them made and are one of our best sellers on the e-shop.

These three items could be from any other designer in the three categories of members, but I really feel that these three exemplify what Hidden Art is all about.
 

What motivates you?
Seeing our designer makers being successful, selling well in the market place, and knowing that you contributed to that growth.  It all goes back to mazorca.

If you had to do it all over again…
Haha!  If I knew then what I know now and could do it all over again?  Really, I am very happy.  Everything needs time.  You need structures to get where I’d like to take Hidden Art, and we’re building those.  We may not get there, but we’re working toward it.

 

df200What food/dessert best describes your design style?  What was it five years ago?  What would you like for it to be in five years?   A gourmet mix. (Big smile, bigger than the one in her picture!) This is very Dutch.  It’s essentially a big mix of food laid out on the table allowing people to choose and mix what they want.  I’m really a big food person.  This has been my style in the past, and I’d still like for my style to be this way in five years.

The first thing you notice in a restaurant.
Atmosphere and décor.  You can have a restaurant with nice décor, but if no one’s there you don’t go in to eat.  And vice versa.

Eating what food brings back the best memories?
Tacos in Mexico.  (Twinkle in her eye!)

The last piece of art you fell in love with.
Chris Duffy’s Glo chandelier in our e-shop.

The first piece of furniture you bought for your home.
A sofa.  The Edwina Sofa from Wawa .  It’s very large and my flat isn’t that big.  It took forever to get it into my flat, but it was worth it.

No home is complete without…
A kitchen.  It’s the heart of the home.

You’ll always pick up a magazine if _____________________ is on the cover?
A product from a Hidden Art member.

You’re most proud of your collection of…
Frogs! 

One thing you always bring with you when you travel.
My camera.

 
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